“”reverend”” al sharpton condones same sex marriage – WHAT ???????


  • STATEMENT FROM REV. AL SHARPTON REGARDING PRESIDENT OBAMA’S SUPPORT OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

    May 9, 2012 (New York, NY)–“I salute President Obama’s statement today supporting same-sex marriage. This is an important and historic development for a sitting President to take such a bold, and I feel correct, position.

    This is not about mine or anyone’s personal or religious views. It is about equal rights for all. We cannot be selective with civil rights. We must support civil rights for everybody or we don’t support them for anyone.

    I am prepared to fight, as I have since 2003 in the faith community, about the rightness of the position that the President has now taken.”

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      • Christopher Williams You along with Rev. Jackson are going to have to work inside the Black church to assure that the President does not lose any support from his African-American base because of this move. This is the only issue that the President supports that is not supported by his African-American base. We as African-Americans need to realize that discrimination against one is discrimination against all.

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      • Dennis C. Latham supporting same sex marriage is like supporting black on black crimes and killings.

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      • Lael Avenue Blues Montgomery Romans Chapter 1 26-31
        Paul to the Romans, the most powerful empire on earth before its fall, Al how can U support this and call yourself a reverend ordained under the oath of God and his word, this is not a Civil issue this is a sin issue, how dare yall compare this to the Civil Rights Movement, We were born in our skin, we didn’t choose it, people choose to be gay, it is a sin, the first step is admitting U have a problem and wanting the same sex is a sin and a problem not a Civil rights issue….Martin Luther King would have never supported gay marriges because he was a man of Biblical values, something U will never understand Al, Bet if Obama was white u wouldn’t support him on this issue, Stand for something or fall for anything Yall know wut was written and just in case you didn’t here it is…… Romans26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
        27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
        28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
        29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
        30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
        31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
        32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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      • Jl Daniels You are right…….i am not gay….but who u want to have in your bedroom,is not my problem…..same sex or other sex …..family is family…..the end

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      • Christopher Williams There is a separation of church and state in this country. You can have your religious beliefs but don’t try to force them on the whole country. The 14th amendment is the 14th amendment.

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – there is no separations of church and state – that is a man made cliche from the pits of hell – to give claimed christians who are in politics – THE JUSTICE to take GOD out of their decisions ….

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      • Christopher Williams If you want a country where religion rules all laws and customs there are many muslim countries to choose from, see how much you will like it there.

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams ??? I’m doing fine RIGHT HERE and I will do fine ANYWHERE ELSE … because I don’t put anything ABOVE GOD.

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      • Dennis C. Latham I don’t live to please man, society and all of it’s wickedness – I LIVE TO PLEASE GOD and DO GOD’S WILL.

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      • Christopher Williams I don’t either but your version of God is different from mine.

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – I SERVE THE GOD of Abraham, Jacob, Joseph of THE HOLY BIBLE.

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      • Christopher Williams So you are Jewish?

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams ??? I don’t have to be Jewish to be CHOSEN or SAVED
        Galatians 3:28
        There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
        Romans 10:12
        For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
        Colossians 3:11
        Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

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      • Christopher Williams The person who wrote that left out Gay or Straight.

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – ALL have a chance to be SAVED as long as they are LIVING. Not matter of what their sins are – ALL – even gay people – even murderers, even you – but once you’re DEAD ? It’s ALL UP TO JUDGMENT DAY

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – I hope you read the words – “”male nor female”” – that covers EVERYONE BEING.
      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – take your time – get others to come with you – I’ve got PLENTY of TIME to SHARE, SHED, SHOW, SOW, SPEAK, SPREAD and TEACH THE WHOLE HOLY TRUTH OF GOD.

      • Jamaal Newton

        I disagree with the President’s view on same sex marriage, and I believe it should not be condoned in the clergy, the church, or the United States of America. God destroyed a nation/city of people because of this abominable act, and if we are the one Nation under God, we must follow after the ordinance of him. Same-Sex Marriage is not God, and should not be condoned by the leaders of this country. God loves the homosexual, but he hates the sin! In conclusion we as the United States of America should stop the agendas of our own, and get back to the agenda’s of God, and this will make us a Greater nation.
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      • Christopher Williams How is too people who love each other and want to be committed to each other in marriage a sin. Again you cannot mix religion with politics, if you do live in Saudi Arabia.

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – then tell all politicians they can’t be a part of a church ….. and besides – I’m not talking about religion – I’m talking about THE COMMANDMENTS and LAWS OF GOD – but you seem to have ran away from our earlier conversation.

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      • Christopher Williams Not relevant in us law.

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      • Jamaal Newton It is because of this mentality, we accept anything in this country, and try to make to be normal. There is absolutely nothing normal about Same-Sex Marriage, it is an abnormal act, and is abnormal to believe this lifestyle is correct. I for one support the President in many things, but in this he is incorrect in his personal belief.

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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – You’re getting LOVE mixed up with ABOMINATIONS UNTO GOD, lust and perversions.

      • Christopher Williams If you do not allow same sex marriage, you can then not allow interacial marriage. Same basis of law, the 14th amendment.

      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Christopher Williams – wrong again …. you’re really reaching aren’t you – it’s so sad to see act this way – and I don’t even know you. What god is it that your serve ?

      • Ziyad Murad

        Christopher William you are obviously illiterate, fundamentally uneducated, and you no nothing of the 14th amendment. But I can respect you’re being gay but not willing to come out of the closet. You know nothing of the constitution, the bible or Saudi Arabia. you’re not even a pseudo intellectual – just down right ignorant. You look young enough to go back to school. It’s not the argument or the issue I take umbrage with – The first amendment clearly gives us right to free speech – but you can run into a movie theater and scream Fire! The Constitution is a great document. Also you have Human rights mixed up with civil rights. Can you see no distinction between the two? Al has his rights to his opinions but that does not mean we all must agree. Don’t seek to be controversial at the expense of others – because people who are Homosexual have a right to life; beyond what the constitution, bible or what any other document espouses. 95% of high school students in New York could not Identify the molecules that make up water. can you? Does this have anything to do with your position? You maybe doing gays more harm than good. Have you heard the term post hoc ergo Procter hoc. ~ZIYAD~
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      • Unitedstatesafrica Usaforusafrica Yours in a United Africa,See the Webmercial for a United States of Africa at this link:
        http://goanimate.com/go/movie/0hr2DtPPFdyU?utm_source=emailshare&uid=0O1DvCeM7ltYMark Wood

        Founder USA4USAfrica: Est 1996
        The world’s 1st Internet based coalition for the formation of a United States of Africa
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        The United States of Africa (usa4usafrica@gmail.com)
        Yours in a United Africa,

        See the Webmercial for a United States of Africa at this link:
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        http://UnitedStatesAfrica.com/ A United States of Africa on July 4th 2012
      • Dennis C. Latham ‎Paula Purpose Cooke – you tell me what you think.

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      • Pastor Robert C Moore http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-sentencing/index.html

        www.cnn.com

        A judge sentenced a Florida woman to 20 years in prison Friday for firing a warning shot in an effort to scare off her abusive husband.
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      • Dennis C. Latham ‎@Pastor Robert C Moore – I’m beginning to know – it’s a waste of time – Gotta take other ROADS NOW.same prosecutor as the TRAYVON MARTIAN murder – but they marches and rallied because everyone thought zimmerman was FULLY WHITE – when they found out he was only half white ? They couldn’t just shut down – it would have been too embarrassing – and too much control, fame, fortune and money and power would have been lost.


    • Pastor Robert C Moore What other roads are there?

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    • Dennis C. Latham THE NARROW ROADS …..The Road of JUSTICE, The Road Of RIGHTEOUSNESS and The Road Of TRUTH.Not the roads that have been being used in the past ……..
      the road of pimping the people
      the road of song, dance and show
      the road of putting position over GOD
      the road of pleasing society and it’s demons
      the road of giving the people what they want – and not what they need.

      I hope you get the PHOTO I have painted here.


    • Pastor Robert C Moore So right, Brother Latham… so many people haven’t studied their history…every civilization who has gone down this road…has fallen and disintegrated… Egypt, Rome, etc.

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    • Dennis C. Latham Pastor Robert C Moore – so many – if not all instances of taking GOD out – leads to sexual perversions ….

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  1. If people choose to be gay, then I challenge you to be gay for a week and report back on your experience. Does the thought disgust you? Guess it’s not a choice after all. It is just as ignorant as my saying you chose to be black. You just are. God creates us exactly as he plans, so being gay is something God creates…and God does not make mistakes. I have heterosexual parents; my father abused my mother and us and held us at gunpoint before leaving the country and leaving us poor and fatherless. Great hetero parenting! Watch the news and count the number of heterosexuals who abuse or kill their spouses or children. Count the number of gay couples and parents who do the same. Then see if you can still tell me heterosexual marriage and parenting is better. While you’re at it, study the original text of the bible rather than your version which has been translated and modified over and over (because I am willing to bet that you haven’t seen the original Greek and Hebrew texts). There is no mention of homosexuality as being sinful. It was added in the English version by white men hundreds of years later who decided they thought that was was the prophets and evangelists “meant”. So please quantify that when you claim the bible says something, it isn’t the original word of God but some other version that you have decided is better and more accurate than God’s true words.

    • there is only GOOD or evil – nothing in between – fornication is a sin as well – a lying tongue and other things are also ABOMINATIONS UNTO GOD …. The SCRIPTURES SAY – a man should not lay with a man sexually – and a woman should not lay with a woman sexually.

      • You are either misinformed – as I said in my first post – or you are deliberately lying in order to deceive. You seem to believe that saying “the sciptures say…” implies you are going to tell the truth. The original text of the Bible (not whatever translation that you have decided is a better mangling of God’s word) never says that. I pray that you will stop attributing false statements to God and that you will someday educate yourself on the TRUE words in the original text…..although I believe you won’t since it is more advantageous for you if you continue to use a manipulated interpretation of the Bible that better fits your personal beliefs and agenda. It’s sad, really. Be careful; scripture actually DOES say that Satan quotes scripture to confuse and manipulate. By not quoting the original text of the Bible and instead misquoting it to further your own agenda, you are doing the same.

      • “”You are either misinformed – as I said in my first post””

        be more specific – it’s easy to call someone a liar when you don’t want to accept or receive THE TRUTH.

        “” – or you are deliberately lying in order to deceive.””

        against – it’s easy to call names – but for the record ? I Do Not Lie …. may sound impossible – because you do it ….
        but I’ve practiced and trained to get to where I am today – because I learned a long time ago – lying has been, is and will always be wrong.

        “” You seem to believe that saying “the sciptures say…” implies you are going to tell the truth.””

        I will be GLAD to post the scriptures that back up anything I have said – all you have to do is ask instead of calling names.

        “”The original text of the Bible (not whatever translation that you have decided is a better mangling of God’s word) never says that.””

        never says what ? – Try being more SPECIFIC – instead of throwing accusations out with out THE PROOF.
        It’s easy to throw false statements out because you don’t want to accept or receive THE TRUTH.

        “” I pray that you will stop attributing false statements to God and that you will someday educate yourself on the TRUE words in the original text…..””

        why don’t you LIST what my false statements are – this blog shows comments from more than one person – and you posted a bunch of accusations but you were in NO WAY CLEAR as to what you were talking about.

        “”although I believe you won’t since it is more advantageous for you if you continue to use a manipulated interpretation of the Bible that better fits your personal beliefs and agenda.””

        well …. it would be REAL NICE if you were PRECISE in what statements you are referring to.

        “” It’s sad, really. Be careful; scripture actually DOES say that Satan quotes scripture to confuse and manipulate.””

        Well … why don’t you list those scriptures that I have quoted ?

        “” By not quoting the original text of the Bible and instead misquoting it to further your own agenda, you are doing the same.””

        LIST OR NAME what I have MISQUOTED …… grow up – be an adult – LIST OR NAME what I have MISQUOTED.

    • @Marc ? I will ADDRESS what I said to you – that you have BLATANTLY called FALSE ….

      there is only GOOD or evil – nothing in between

      Revelation 3:16
      So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

      1 Kings 18:21
      And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

      Matthew 6:24
      No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

      Luke 16:13
      No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

      – fornication is a sin as well –

      @Mark – are you saying that sex between the same sex without being married is not fornication ?
      You did call me a liar in so many words …… RIGHT ?

      a lying tongue and other things are also ABOMINATIONS UNTO GOD””

      Proverbs 6:16-19
      16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
      17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
      18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
      19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

      …. The SCRIPTURES SAY – a man should not lay with a man sexually – and a woman should not lay with a woman sexually.

      Leviticus 18:22
      Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

      Leviticus 20:13
      If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

      um … @mark …. you were saying ?????? Where is the MISQUOTING ?

      • Your quotes about men lying with men sexually are not quotes from the original text of the Bible. That wording is not what the original text says. You are quoting from an English translation that is many levels of translation away from the original text. Humans added their own biases to God’s word, and the original words and meanings have been changed so that people like you can claim that the Bible says something when, in fact, they are not quoting the original word of God at all. You may continue to quote an English man’s word and claim you are quoting God’s word if you wish, but if you don’t have time to study the TRUE and original text of the Bible, then I don’t have time to argue with you. I know what the actual words say, so I will take comfort in them and the fact that it is only hateful, misinformed men who hate me and not my all-knowing, loving God.

      • @marc – if you knew the original text ? You would have posted it – instead of making it up.
        deceptions, lies and tricks – are the wrong way to approach me.
        it is of the devil and not of GOD.

        For The Record ? I don’t hate you – but you are a liar – and if you even had the RIGHT TEXT as you claim ?
        you would have shown it – to teach me THE TRUTH – but you have no proof – only deceptions, lies and tricks.

  2. I will waste my time typing this out for you – all the while knowing that it is the duty of an “educated person” to research information before he proclaims it with all his being to be factual. You should be doing this research and learning on your own if you want to continue quoting from God’s word. Again, your translated and biased bible is not the original words of the authors of the sacred text. I don’t have the time or desire to tell you everything you are saying wrong. I will give you some examples and allow you to make the decision (or not) to actually go learn something about the true text of the bible, which was written long before the English version you hold to be so true and accurate. I am fairly certain you will NOT put in the time to become truly educated on the sacred text and will, instead, continue to just repeat your falsehoods and proclaim to spreading God’s truth. Those who are misinformed just seem to get louder with their misinformation in order to make themselves sound like they know what they are talking about.

    First, let’s address the “abomination” that you claim describes gays. The ACTUAL word in the bible is “To’ebah”, which does not translate to wicked or sinful as the English bible’s use of “abomination” would have you believe. “To’ebah” is something which is not of Jewish tradition and is therefore considered taboo to Jews; it is used throughout the bible. In addition to men being together, the original text uses the word to describe the eating of meat together with dairy and the eating of things in the sea which have no fins, among other things (check Deuteronomy 14). The bible clearly says that those things are okay for foreigners but not for Jews (it even says you may give or sell such to foreigners). Since you and I are not Jews, those taboos do not apply to us – according to the bible. If they do, and if the bible truly says it is wicked and sinful, then I suppose if you’ve ever eaten shrimp or lobster or a cheeseburger or had butter on your steak then you are also an “abomination” and will be burning in hell along with the gays.

    In the bible there are other references to men having sex with men and women with women (such as I Romans 22 – 32 and I Timothy 1:10). There is something missing from the original text with that incomplete translation. The original text of the bible uses the words “qadesh” and “qdeshah”, which are male and female temple prostitutes. These prostitutes or “devotees” worked in pagan temples for fertility gods and goddesses; these temples were filled with false idols (even animal idols) and claimed to provide worshippers a closer connection to their gods through sexual acts performed in the temple. They often had drunken/drugged orgies and performed perverted acts, all in the name of devotion and worship to their pagan gods. They had sex with worshippers of either gender, so they were not necessarily gay. Even those who were straight had sex with members of their own gender during their ritualistic sexual acts. It is their paganism, worship of false gods, and perverse sexual acts in their temples which caused God to condemn them. I should mention that there was no word for homosexual in ancient Greek or Hebrew.

    If you are thinking that the story of Sodom is proof of gays bringing upon themselves the wrath of God, take a better look at the story. It is not men who make up the mob outside the house, but rather “people from every quarter/all parts of the city” (Genesis 19:4). The mob – men and women and children, as the bible says – demands that the two male angels be sent out of the house so they may know them; the English translation added wording to the effect of “know them carnally/sexually”. The first obvious issue is that, if it actually was sexual, that would imply that the children wanted to rape the men AND it allows for the fact that the rapists could have been the women who were in the crowd, thus destroying the theory that it was homosexuality which angered God. However, in the original text of the bible, to “know” something did not have sexual connotation every time it is used. In fact, the idea of “knowing” is used many, many times in the bible to mean something other than sex; it usually meant “to interrogate or investigate in order to gain an understanding of” and very rarely was used to mean something sexual. For example, 1 Samuel 3:7 says, “Samuel did not yet know the Lord,” and surely it isn’t implying he will one day have sex with God. Since the angels were strangers, the people of the town were suspicious of them and wanted to “know” why they were in town and what they were planning. It is their ill treatment of visitors (which even Jesus spoke against), their disbelief in God, and their selfishness which caused the destruction of the people of Sodom. Incidentally, if the story of Sodom and Gomorah in Genesis 19 is supposed to be telling us that gay sex is wrong (which it isn’t based on the original wording as I described above), then the end of the story is telling us that it is okay for a girl to get her father drunk, have sex with him, and bear his children (which is what Lot’s daughters do after they all escape Sodom and Gomorah so that Lot’s lineage may continue; God doesn’t destroy them for it).

    Those are a few examples of how generations upon generations of translations (by people of different cultures, languages, and religious backgrounds than the original authors of God’s word) have caused a change in the meanings of the original text. Each translator filtered the original words and imposed upon them his own understandings and cultural norms of the time rather than writing a true word-for-word translation. This is why people must be careful about proclaiming that “God said…” and “The bible says…” when they are, in fact, quoting some altered interpretations.

    Other things to point out about the Bible:

    Things FORBIDDEN in some part of the bible (which you or someone you know may have done): divorce, sex with a woman having her period, masturbation, using birth control (including “pulling out”, which is specifically mentioned), a woman losing her virginity before marriage (Deuteronomy 22:21 says she must be stoned in front of her parents’ house), cheating on your spouse (the bible says both people involved in the cheating must be stoned to death, unless it happens in the countryside, in which case it is considered rape and only the man should be stoned to death), and people of illegitimate birth entering a church or temple (in fact, that rule applies to the 10th generation beyond the original illegitimate child, which means many black Americans today should not be attending church as they could be illegitimate descendants of slaves and slaveholders; that one is Deuteronomy 23:2 in case you want to read it yourself).

    Things ALLOWED in some part of the bible (which I am guessing you would disagree with): slavery, buying a slave woman and making her a wife, beating a slave severely as long as he or she doesn’t die (since the bible specifically says that a slave is property and thus the slave owner has a right to beat him), selling your daughter, and marrying multiple wives.

    Another fun rule: a women whose husband dies and leaves her childless can’t marry someone from outside the family but must instead marry her former husband’s brothers, one by one, until she produces an heir.

    Do you see how ludicrous AND dangerous it is to pull out a sentence or two out of context from a translated bible and proclaim it be be God’s law??? You – and many others – have no problem saying, “The bible says man shall not lie with man, so gays are an abomination and are going to hell”. You would be outraged, however, if I were to say, “Any black American who is a descendant of the union between a slave and slave master who goes to church is breaking God’s law and is going to hell.” Rather than studying about the true original text of the bible and the social contexts which affected the words of that bible and current inaccurate translations, you want to be a self-proclaimed “knower of God’s word” and you want to keep quoting things which are not accurate in order to promote your own views and to oppress groups that you oppose.

    I am sure you’re going to respond to this post by saying I made all of it up and that you know the TRUE words of God (based on your 1600’s or 1800’s or 1900’s translation which was written many centuries after the actual bible). I’m sure you will say I lie and am trying to deceive because what you say is the truth. This arguing and debating with you is pointless as I know you want to remain comfortable in your understanding of the bible rather than learning about the original text and God’s intentions in THOSE words. I choose to study and learn about and pray about God’s word (written originally in Hebrew and Greek) and understand God’s message and His love. Jesus, our Savior, never spoke about homosexuals. His law was, “love one another”.

    • why is it you will not PROVIDE the actual TEXT in your comments ?
      why is it you won’t link me up to this ORIGINAL TEXT WEB SITE ?
      why is it you continue to call me wrong with NO PROOF ?
      You provide NO PROOF – only your own words.

      Lastly ? Sodom and Gomorrah was about more than just sexual perversions – even I know that.
      Nice of you to FALSELY ACCUSE me in many instances in the long drawn out reply.

      I don’t care how you TWIST is – bearing false witness against me is AGAINST GOD
      a lying tongue is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD
      so you are setting the WORSE EXAMPLE
      I will not believe or follow a liar.

      SHOW ME – don’t tell me.
      and I also know the reason for your LONG LONG LONG replies
      it’s to keep confusion – and to bring many topics to the table
      you won’t make it simple – you have to make it complicated and confusing with insults and lies twisted through your deceptions, lies and tricks …..

      • Ha! You respond just as I predicted you would. Your claims are “true” simply because you say them, but when I actually give you textual references from the original Hebrew then you say I am making it up. Where do YOU get YOUR information from?? I gave you the original wording, but you simply brush it aside as false since you don’t agree with it. You claimed in an earlier post that you wanted me to “teach” you. I tried, and you refuse to open your mind and try to learn. Persist in your misinformed rhetoric, your blindness, and your refusal to actively persue knowledge about the Greek and Hebrew texts of the original word of God. I have tried to help you want to learn about the original text by telling you some of the wording which can be easily researched. Search online or go read written descriptions by Greek and Hebrew scholars or go talk to Jews who studied the text in its original language. I did those things to educate myself so I would understand the true word of God. Do not expect me to hand it all to you. First, we both know that you would deny it all as lies. Second, we both know that if you really wanted to learn about it then you would take the time and effort to do so. It is evident from all of your posts here that you instead prefer to simply repeat your same misinformed translations over and over because it is easier and safer for you than taking time to learn the original text which just might differ from what you hold to be true. Since my efforts to inform you thus far have proved fruitless due to your not wanting to learn, I am done wasting my time on you. Please feel free to continue saying my words are lies and against God. Just ponder for a moment that if you go all your life without making an effort to learn about the original text of the bible and instead continue preaching an incorrect anf biased translation, it is YOU who is teaching lies and bearing false witness. I wish you peace and a life filled with God’s love, whether you decide to research and learn or not.

      • @marc – try showing me a SITE with this BIBLE you “”CLAIM”” to be quoting from – although I see no TRUE QUOTES – with the BOOK, CHAPTER and VERSES …. or is this bible you speak oh have NO BOOKS, NO CHAPTERS or NO VERSES ????

  3. Funny how I did give books, chapters, and verses yet you somehow accuse me of not doing so. This is another example of you just getting louder in an attempt to make yourself sound more convincing. Sad.

    • you gave books 1ST talking about something that was not even on the subject
      After reading your first paragraph of attacks and deceptions – I chose not to read the rest of your crap.

      Where did you POST THIS ACTUAL SCRIPTURE FROM THE CORRECT BIBLE ?
      Where is THE LINK for this CORRECT BIBLE you speak of ?

      I keep my answers short and to the point – unlike you who had to type up 10 PARAGRAPHS

  4. And as for a site that has this bible for you to read…someone should have taught you long ago that not everything is on the Internet and not everything on the Internet is true. There are sites that have information about the original text as I explained it, and you are welcome to visit those. I assume you know how to do a search on the Internet. However, I also said in a prior post that I read research and spoke to Jews who studied the original Hebrew text. You don’t seem to read my texts at all before you reply. I learned from many sources rather than trying to rely on “a site” as you would like to do. It would serve you well to read and research. A learned man is more believable than one who does not seek knowledge.

    • When I am done finalizing my new TELEVISION CHANNELS, NETWORKS and STATIONS ? I’m going to break down your comments.
      As far as your insults and lies about, on and to me ?

      I know how to research – yet you contradict yourself when you talk to me like I believe everything on the internet – then you come back to tell me to research the internet for this imaginary book that you seem to know so much about.

      Tell you what ? I have THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD to COMFORT and GUIDE me through THE HOLY BIBLE.
      I know same sex is wrong, but I will still be breaking down your comments.
      Just to show how hateful you are and need to attempt to deceive me.

  5. It is obvious from your posts here and in other places on your blog that you have a pattern of contradiction. You claim to be in a state of lifelong learning so you can understand God better (and you even asked me why I wasn’t “teaching” you), and then you say I write too much when I offer you information that can lead to research and learning. I tell you that I have learned of the original bible text from studying, reading, and talking to Hebrew scholars, and you say you want me to point you to one web site that shows everything I learned (and you claim I don’t know what I am talking about even though I have researched it). You say I am attacking, but you keep calling me a liar. You say I am deceptive, but when I try to explain some things I have learned in my research you try to cloud things by saying you want a website and by accusing me of lies and deception rather than doing some reading and research and responding to what I have written. You accuse me of not listing scriptural references, but when I point out that I actually DID, you give excuses of not wanting “read my crap”. Your responses to me are always that I don’t know what I am talking about (again – in spite of all the reading and research I did) and that YOU know what you’re talking about. You keep spouting off scripture as indesputable proof that “the bible says…”, yet when I suggest that you learn about the ancient text you just keep telling me you already know what the bible says. Here is a mini history lesson (and please don’t ask me what website I got it from because it is common knowledge and can be found in hundreds of websites and books if you need to look it up): Jesus lived in roughly 7 B.C. – 30 A.D. The King James Bible was written in 1611 in England. The New American Bible was written in the U.S. in 1970. I am not sure which version and translation of the bible you are quoting, but the two I listed were written nearly 2,000 years after Jesus lived (and after the original word of God was written down) and are even farther removed from the writings of the Old Testament. If you don’t think you should investigate and learn about the original Hebrew and Greek texts…..and you believe it is just fine to quote words written by people in a different part of the world from where Jesus lived and thousands of years later and say they are “the word of God”…..then I really can’t do much more for you.

    The use of the bible against homosexuals reminds me very much of how whites used the bible to justify slavery, subjugation, and refusal of equal rights to blacks. Praise God that people finally read and learned and figured out that the bible was being misenterpreted, misquoted, and incorrectly translated …. it was being misused in order to oppress.

    • Look liar – I did not ask you to show me ONE SINGLE WEBSITE with ALL YOU HAVE LEARNED – liar.
      I asked you to show me a web site that has this imaginary BIBLE.
      stop lying – or continue – just makes me not pay attention to you.

  6. Now that I have read your comment about your television channels and networks and such, never mind. That explains so much. My sister worked in a high-end clothing store for years and constantly sold thousand-dollar suits to men in “the ministry” who paid with funds received from devoted followers of God. Thank the Lord that those men are here among us to “spread the word”. Good, honest, pious, humble men. Ha!

    I have wasted my time trying to point you in the direction of doing your own research (from books, articles, Hebrew scholars, etc.). I spent years researching just so I could understand. You obviously are too busy staging and promoting your career to spend time to become more learned about the original scripture of God’s word. Good luck with your big career in the entertainment industry as a televised minister. When you “break down my comments”, be sure to tell everyone where you got your information. I’m done here.

    • you are very pathetic – I will not believe you just because you say it …. I’m not that naive …..
      you have given me NO LINK to this imaginary bible – all you have to offer is to tell me you studied for years ….. blah blah blah
      so have I – I have studied for years too – and I know that males having sex with males is wrong and so is females with females.

      For your ignorance ? 1Latham TV is not an entertainment television show
      1Latham TV is a station for THE CHILDREN OF GOD – and POTENTIAL CHILDREN OF GOD.
      1Latham TV is about teaching ALL how to LOVE and everything that LOVE is not.
      1Latham TV is not about me preaching or anyone else preaching

      I am so glad that all of your years of study – have attempted to put me in a box
      MORE PROOF – not to believe you – because your mind is small and in a box.

      Now … I said – when I get time ? I would break down your super long comment
      you have said some things that I will have to research for myself.
      but since you don’t want to give me time ?
      and since you want to insult 1Latham TV ?
      I will allow you to rest in your evil.

      • Thanks for calling me ignorant. Ignorance is defined as lack of education, knowledge, or information. It is YOU who has not studied the original text of the bible (you keep asking for the website where the original bible resides, but I will remind you that the computer had not yet been invented during the time of Jesus).

        Thanks for calling me evil. It is Jesus who will, when his kingdom comes, have the authority to judge me based on my actions – not you.

        I find it interesting that you felt the need to name-drop and promote your TV ministry five times in your last reply.

      • The King James HOLY BIBLE was written when computers weren’t yet invented – any more excuses ?

        “”Thanks for calling me ignorant.””

        I call you what you are by what actions you make and take against me and from what comes out of your mouth ……..

        Matthew 15:18
        But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

        Matthew 15:11
        Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

        “” Ignorance is defined as lack of education, knowledge, or information.””

        KJV Dictionary Definition: ignorance

        ignorance

        IG’NORANCE, n. L. ignorantia; ignoro,not to know; ignarus, ignorant; in and gnarus, knowing.

        1. Want, absence or destitution of knowledge; the negative state of the mind which has not been instructed in arts, literature or science, or has not been informed of facts. Ignorance may be general, or it may be limited to particular subjects. Ignorance of the law does not excuse a man for violating it. Ignorance of facts if often venial.

        Ignorance is preferable to error.

        2. Ignorances, in the plural, is used sometimes for omissions or mistakes; but the use is uncommon and not to be encouraged.

        ignorant

        IG’NORANT, a. L. ignorans. Destitute of knowledge; uninstructed or uninformed; untaught; unenlightened. A man may be ignorant of the law, or of any art or science. He may be ignorant of his own rights, or of the rights of others.

        1. Unknown; undiscovered; a poetical use; as ignorant concealment.

        “” It is YOU who has not studied the original text of the bible””

        well … it is you – who seem to continue on speaking of this original text – tell me this – is GOD’S FINGER PRINTS ON IT ? PROVE IT IS THE ORIGINAL TEXT – and PROVE that it knows more than THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD …….

        “”(you keep asking for the website where the original bible resides, but I will remind you that the computer had not yet been invented during the time of Jesus).

        Was the computer invented when THE King James HOLY BIBLE was written ?

        “”Thanks for calling me evil.””

        I call you EXACTLY from how you act and from what comes out of your mouth – evil one.

        “” It is Jesus who will, when his kingdom comes, have the authority to judge me based on my actions – not you.””

        I have THE AUTHORIY, POWER and RIGHT to try your spirit and see if it is of GOD – and it is not.

        Tell me what 1 John 4:1 says in your original text …..

        “”I find it interesting that you felt the need to name-drop and promote your TV ministry five times in your last reply.””

        the need ? Well … when you blatantly lie about what you don’t know – I stated several things about 1Latham TV – maybe you’re just pissed because you were wrong about 1Latham TV.

        Matthew 23:24
        Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

  7. If you believe the King James bible, an English adaptation written in the 1600s, is more accurate than the Torah and original Hebrew and Greek biblical texts written Thousands of years ago, then I pity you for YOUR ignorance. You do not need to quot

    • quote dictionaries as I have a degree in the English language among other degrees (which is probably why your inability to write using correct sentence structure and punctuation throws me). You also do not need to quote the bible to me as I have read and studied it. I know the verses, like Jeremiah 23 which warns against false prophets who speak from their own minds and not the mouth of God.

      • THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD guides and teaches me to know RIGHT from wrong. If you had enough LOVE for others ? You would be the first to translate this imaginary version you claim to know so much about.

  8. Your reliance on a 1600’s adaptation of the original bible shows your lack of learning, your narrow-mindedness, and the weakness of your argument. It is sad.

    • What is sad is that you condone and support males having sex with males and females having sex with females.

      • Unlike you, I dont believe myself to be so important and above others that they need me to condone or support them. You are self-righteous and arrogant, which is humorous considering your lack of understanding and education. You proclaim to speak the truths of the Lord and the Holy Spirit when you are, in fact, spreading innacurate teachings which you attribute to God when they are actually the words of men used to foster hatred, bigotry, discrimination, persecution, and even murder. Doing so makes YOU evil, not me. I pray that God has mercy on you at the final judgment when your excuse will be, “…but I thought that was what You meant. That’s what MY bible said.”

      • “”Unlike you, I dont believe myself to be so important and above others that they need me to condone or support them.””

        you support sin – I don’t support sin – that doesn’t make me self righteous or arrogant …
        I do not hate anyone who chooses to have sex with the same sex
        I fight daily for EQUAL and FAIR TREATMENT to all – but I do not support sin

        “” You are self-righteous and arrogant,””

        so tell me – because this conversation with you is about over – what have I done that makes me self righteous and arrogant ?

        “” which is humorous considering your lack of understanding and education.””

        I’m glad you find humor in people who might have a lack of understanding and education … I guess this ORIGINAL BIBLE that you know OH SO WELL – teaches you to laugh at people whom you think have a “”lack of understanding and education””

        Already – I want no parts of this ORIGIANAL BIBLE that you claim to know so much about – it’s very hateful and wicked.
        because if you had any LOVE for me ? You would laugh at me for any of my short coming …. you’ve lost this conversation with your hatred.

        “”You proclaim to speak the truths of the Lord and the Holy Spirit when you are, in fact, spreading innacurate teachings which you attribute to God when they are actually the words of men used to foster hatred, bigotry, discrimination, persecution, and even murder.””

        you’re a liar from the pits of hell – and you reek of the devil’s buttcrack

        “” Doing so makes YOU evil, not me.””

        just because you make up false accusations about me doesn’t make me evil – it makes you evil – a lying tongue is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD ….. but your ORIGINAL BIBLE doesn’t teach that.

        “” I pray that God has mercy on you at the final judgment when your excuse will be, “…but I thought that was what You meant. That’s what MY bible said.”””

        don’t pray for me – I don’t want any prayers from someone who hates me – this conversation is over. – satan

  9. Ridiculous. I knew you would choose not to research the bible before all was said and done. You are angry and spiteful and narrow-minded. Continue to wallow in your lies. It is fitting that, in using incorrect punctuation at the end of your rant, instead of calling ME satan as you intended, you ended up signing YOURSELF off as satan. You said it….not me.

    • Also interesting is that you claim to fight daily for fair and equal treatment for ALL, yet this entire blog thread started because you oppose equality when it comes to legalized marriage. You are contradicting yourself again. Remember: a lying tongue is an abomination unto God.

      • “”Also interesting is that you claim to fight daily for fair and equal treatment for ALL,””

        FOR ALL PEOPLE ….

        “”yet this entire blog thread started because you oppose equality when it comes to legalized marriage.””

        AGAINST LYING, MURDER, SAME SEX MARRIAGE, and OTHER THING – NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DO IT OR WANT TO DO IT.

        “” You are contradicting yourself again.””

        NO …. just because you say it – does’t make it true.

        “” Remember: a lying tongue is an abomination unto God.””

        so is homosexuality, a lying tongue, a prideful look …. I’ve been through this – I told you I was done with this – now I am for real – because this is just a waste of time with you …. PEACE BE UNTO YOU.

  10. Agreed. Waste of time. Just as Jesus said to the devil when he – like you – misused scripture to try to manipulate (Matthew 4:10), I say to you, “Get thee hence.”

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